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Ironsides.....<BR/><BR/>Wow! this was a dramatic post. I would like to comment on four things you highlight:<BR/><BR/>1. your question on the P3, P4 context<BR/>2. Dr. DeBakey<BR/>3. Your website<BR/>4.Department of Psychology<BR/><BR/>RE:1. your question on the P3, P4 context<BR/><BR/>Apart from the " marketplace" capture of the symbol ,I am referring to the use of " P3" as the proposed eventual

sharonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07118658299069243822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-475000734620346734.post-53969611937797022012008-07-31T20:06:00.000-04:002008-07-31T20:06:00.000-04:00

Could you please elaborate more about p3 and p4 partnering. I&#39;m totally in the dark about things like this.<BR/><BR/>http://www.wesleyjsmith.com/blog/2008/07/janet-rivera-case-medicalized-tyranny.html<BR/><BR/>Above is a link to another case where the sleazy Duty-to-Die movement have moved their way into the legal and healthcare system.<BR/><BR/>Janet Rivera&#39;s case is just one of many

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Ironsides....<BR/>In your comments related to what should be done you have made an astute observation:<BR/><BR/>your comment:<BR/><BR/>' I think the healthcare system needs more budgeting and more workers '<BR/><BR/>RE: budgeting<BR/><BR/>A move to a profit-sharing perspective ( versus cost-sharing) would be wise. In order to effect this you need a P3 partnering with an academic overview ( ?P4).<

sharonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07118658299069243822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-475000734620346734.post-83195054424434536882008-07-30T21:29:00.000-04:002008-07-30T21:29:00.000-04:00

Why euthanasia/assissted-suicide is such a problem, is because the euthanasia pushers build their program with hate propaganda.<BR/><BR/>We've been well mentally conditioned to view people's dependence on others, as being "a burden on others".<BR/><BR/>Then there is "the cost of healthcare", both to tax-payers, and to the families.<BR/><BR/>Disabled People from birth are segregated, and by the

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Ironsides.....<BR/><BR/>Apart from the lifelong efforts of the academic who co-authored that paper (that provides broader evidence of his pro-life stance).....<BR/><BR/>I do agree that you have clearly brought out the most important reality....<BR/>i.e.<BR/>euthanasia ( however it is defined)..... is not about "dying" ( for that is the eventual fate of us all)<BR/><BR/>... it is about " killing"<

sharonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07118658299069243822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-475000734620346734.post-56281724728669318662008-07-30T14:35:00.000-04:002008-07-30T14:35:00.000-04:00

After studying Historical and Biblical References in Physiscian-Assissted Suicide: Court Opinions, first of all, I'm probably the most skeptical person there is of the accuracy of translations from one language to another, or honesty of historians. When it comes to the Social-Sciences academics', I am always suspicious of their motives in whatever direction they take an issue.<BR/><BR/>Concerning

Ironsideshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17859574716267489609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-475000734620346734.post-20097833970197649692008-07-27T09:14:00.000-04:002008-07-27T09:14:00.000-04:00

Cont'd....<BR/><BR/>I appreciate the remark of Ironsides i.e. " my right to live as long as I can"<BR/><BR/>And in his sharing of knowledge and experience I thought to myself:<BR/> " I wonder if Stephen Hawking would be considered on a different basis than the rest of us ?"<BR/><BR/>However, as attractive as anecdotal information is, and, as inspiring as sharing personal passions are, .....

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Anyone interested in reading our coverage of the Golubchuk case in Winnipeg can do so <A HREF="http://www.nationalreviewofmedicine.com/issue/2008/07/5_patients_practice_07.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.

Sam Solomonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04765527434756411063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-475000734620346734.post-78964792654065826272008-07-24T15:53:00.000-04:002008-07-24T15:53:00.000-04:00

Being born with Arthrogryposis, I started having respiratory problems in 1993, going on 42 years old. By 2000, I had to close my apartment and move into long-term care.<BR/><BR/>All my life I have needed people's help to do basic life essentials, and had to live with others, except for four years when I had an apartment.<BR/><BR/>There I had home-care workers, but got stuck several times when

Ironsideshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17859574716267489609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-475000734620346734.post-53572784211992713032008-07-21T10:30:00.000-04:002008-07-21T10:30:00.000-04:00

cont'd....<BR/><BR/>no dialogue on this matter would be complete without considering these two things:<BR/><BR/>A. the experience of others ( e.g Remmelink Report )<BR/><BR/>EXCERPT<BR/><BR/>In 1991, in an effort to come to grips with the actual medical practice of euthanasia and assisted suicide, the Dutch Government established a government commission, headed by Professor Jan Remmelink to study

sharonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07118658299069243822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-475000734620346734.post-80520092004479269702008-07-19T07:28:00.000-04:002008-07-19T07:28:00.000-04:00

continued..... <BR/><BR/>just in case you wonder whether the aforementioned post on ethics...affects "public policy"development...<BR/><BR/>source:<BR/> Post.J. et al…Public Policy Ethics. 8th edition, McGraw Hill. 1996. P.129

sharonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07118658299069243822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-475000734620346734.post-85886657694679885602008-07-19T07:22:00.000-04:002008-07-19T07:22:00.000-04:00

continued......<BR/><BR/>In the " circa 2000" graduates studying ethics an " analytical approach to ethical problems" was preached. In a stepped " ask, compare, assign priorities" framework three principle areas were selected:<BR/>1.Utility ( do benefits exceed costs?)<BR/>2.Rights ( are human rights respected?)<BR/>3.Justice ( are benefits and costs fairly distributed?)<BR/><BR/>Ron, I have no

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Ron....<BR/><BR/>Possible future questions for the CMA as they proceed to collect, synthesize and categorize: <BR/><BR/>1 Are we still a "values-laden" society interracting on the basis of relationships ?<BR/><BR/>2.Are we a "transactions" society interracting on the basis of giving..... as long as we are "getting"?<BR/><BR/>3.Hippocrates wrote his " oath" in the midst of a society that openly

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